Forgot I even posted in this thread... Took the 450 out to Sand Mountain in NV over the weekend first time, still on the 20x10x10 sand stars. Went up the hills fine but really bogs at starts. Should have tried some other paddles while there but didn't think of it. I do need a sturdy tire for running over rocks (found a couple trails with some nasty rocky parts) and whatever else, not into hill shooting only.
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