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I know someone who picked it up.
I know someone who picked it up.
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Should be nice.
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im looking forward to the ktm but i dont think the ds 450 will be that great
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All aluminum frame, looks nice.
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QUOTE (DVXtreme @ May 5 2007, 11:26 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1722
Throw the KFX450 off its throne? I didn't realize it was on a throne. The KFX450 doesn't have anymore HP than any of the other 450's. The bike weighs more than the TRX and YFZ and only weighs less than the LT because of the narrower suspension. The KFX costs more than both the YFZ and TRX and costs about same as the LT which has a better stock suspension setup. Oh ya, the KFX does have reverse. Didn't know that was a requirement in this class. I guess Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Can-Am, and KTM will all have to go back to the drawing board and include reverse on their bikes because the KFX is on a throne with reverse and all...
Throw the KFX450 off its throne? I didn't realize it was on a throne. The KFX450 doesn't have anymore HP than any of the other 450's. The bike weighs more than the TRX and YFZ and only weighs less than the LT because of the narrower suspension. The KFX costs more than both the YFZ and TRX and costs about same as the LT which has a better stock suspension setup. Oh ya, the KFX does have reverse. Didn't know that was a requirement in this class. I guess Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Can-Am, and KTM will all have to go back to the drawing board and include reverse on their bikes because the KFX is on a throne with reverse and all...
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QUOTE (cyberjwalk @ May 13 2007, 09:23 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1856
Dude, you didn't ruffle enough feathers on the other site so you come here to whine. Don't buy a KFX if you don't like it. I'm glad you happy with your LT-R purchase or maybe your not so you come on here to convince yourself that you are.
Dude, you didn't ruffle enough feathers on the other site so you come here to whine. Don't buy a KFX if you don't like it. I'm glad you happy with your LT-R purchase or maybe your not so you come on here to convince yourself that you are.
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QUOTE (quad_runner @ May 14 2007, 07:20 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1862
I'm just still waiting for someone to tell me why I should purchase a KFX over one of the other bikes. I still haven't gotten an honest answer (having reverse or a aluminum frame isn't a plus). I find it funny that it seems most of the KFX owners purchased their bike without ever riding one or buying one just because of the way it looks. Did you compare it to a LT or even a YFZ before you made your purchase? Seems like most buyers didn't and just purchased it because it was the newest bike or because of the way it looks instead of making a sound decision because its the best overall bike or they liked it best AFTER they compared it to riding the other bikes in this class. Ask other people who own a LT or even a YFZ and see what their honest opinion is. You seem to like Mr. Fuel ATV (Steve). I know he owns a LT and a new KFX. Ask him what his honest opinion is on comparing the LT to the KFX both stock to stock and piped to piped. I'm sure he'll say what I and most everbody I've talk to says about this. The KFX has nothing on the LT. Would have expected more from the last player to enter the field almost 4 years after the YFZ was introduced. And now with the DS450 coming out, I don't see the KFX sales doing anything but tapering off even more...
QUOTE (cyberjwalk @ May 14 2007, 11:04 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1864
We're not Kawasaki salesman. No one gives a damn if you buy a KFX, an LT, a YFZ, or whatever? When the YFZ's and 450R's came out in '04 no one had a clue if they were good or bad, but guess what... people bought them anyway and it worked out OK. Back then we had nothing to compare any of the 450's to. Hell, it was all 400EX's and hybrid bikes back then. Why are you on the KFX site pumping up the LT anyway? LT's are great quads, but no one cares about your opinion that LT's are better, blah blah blah. Go to an LT site and talk about your Suzuki and how Kawi's suck all you want, because I, like most people on here, are sick of you idiots who don't know what they're talking about shooting your mouth off. Have you actually rode a KFX, an LTR, a YFZ, and 450R all side by side to actually compare them, or are you going off of something you've heard from a goofball buddy or read in a magazine or forum somewhere? Well, guess what? I own one of each of the 450's, KFX, TRX, YFZ, & LTR, and I can tell you that they are all very close to each other stock for stock. Each has it's pro's and con's like any bike does, but all 4 are very good quads. Hell, 5 or 6 years ago, I wouldn't have thought there would be so many great quads to choose from. I am anxious to see the DS450, but CanAm has some fit & finish/quality issues on their bikes that I hope they address before releasing the new bike. We all know the KTM will be badass, because the Europeans don't do anything half ass, BUT, as everyone knows the price tag will be substantial.
Bottom line is, these guys on this site have just spent seven to eight thousand dollars on a new KFX450 quad that they're proud of, and are on the KFX450 website talking about it when you come on here with your smart ass "mine is better than yours" rhetoric. If you don't like it, shut your yap keyboard racer.
We're not Kawasaki salesman. No one gives a damn if you buy a KFX, an LT, a YFZ, or whatever? When the YFZ's and 450R's came out in '04 no one had a clue if they were good or bad, but guess what... people bought them anyway and it worked out OK. Back then we had nothing to compare any of the 450's to. Hell, it was all 400EX's and hybrid bikes back then. Why are you on the KFX site pumping up the LT anyway? LT's are great quads, but no one cares about your opinion that LT's are better, blah blah blah. Go to an LT site and talk about your Suzuki and how Kawi's suck all you want, because I, like most people on here, are sick of you idiots who don't know what they're talking about shooting your mouth off. Have you actually rode a KFX, an LTR, a YFZ, and 450R all side by side to actually compare them, or are you going off of something you've heard from a goofball buddy or read in a magazine or forum somewhere? Well, guess what? I own one of each of the 450's, KFX, TRX, YFZ, & LTR, and I can tell you that they are all very close to each other stock for stock. Each has it's pro's and con's like any bike does, but all 4 are very good quads. Hell, 5 or 6 years ago, I wouldn't have thought there would be so many great quads to choose from. I am anxious to see the DS450, but CanAm has some fit & finish/quality issues on their bikes that I hope they address before releasing the new bike. We all know the KTM will be badass, because the Europeans don't do anything half ass, BUT, as everyone knows the price tag will be substantial.
Bottom line is, these guys on this site have just spent seven to eight thousand dollars on a new KFX450 quad that they're proud of, and are on the KFX450 website talking about it when you come on here with your smart ass "mine is better than yours" rhetoric. If you don't like it, shut your yap keyboard racer.
QUOTE (cyberjwalk @ May 14 2007, 11:04 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1864
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Are you crazy? How is having reverse not a plus? I'm sure everyone would much rather have a bike without it, right? Not.. I'm sure almost everyone on here rides their bike occasionally on trails and to me having reverse is a great advantage. I dunno maybe you know some secret I don't though..
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QUOTE (cyberjwalk @ May 14 2007, 11:04 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1864
-Bill
I have read what Steve has said and he has no problems with the KFX. He seems to think with a long travel suspension that nothing compares to the KFX handling. He says stock for stock the KFX has more power than the LT-R but not as much as a Cherry Bomb LT-R. I like the LT-R and I could care less if you ever buy a KFX so I will not try to convince you. Maybe when you get your behind handed to you by a KFX it will change your mind. But who knows or cares... Bench racing is what it is, just a bunch of BS. I think having so many 450's to choose from only benefits us. So let them build more, choose your poison and lets ride.
-Bill
I dont pesonally know what you like but i have a yfz currently and it is a hunk of junk im trying desprately trying to sell it for a kfx im blowed away by the kfx ive rode all the 450 at least once and by far stock the ltr is dominant and has the best affordable upgrade in the cherry bomb for 39.00 the and what is bad about the ltr on the stats it is only 11 to 15 pounds heavier than yfz and trx but have you tried to load one of them up into a trailer holy crap talk about a back strain my yfz i can pick up with ease but where the ltr is wider more stability around turns but there all 450 and pretty close but if i look at my yfz the wrong way it breaks and it is a 2007. if i had it to do over agian i would not have been impatient and bought a kfx.I cant wait to get my kfx hopefully in a week or so.Best of luck to you
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QUOTE (fastrnrik @ May 14 2007, 02:54 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868
Did I ever say mine is betters than yours? Wasn't my original question asking all you KFX owners why I should purchase a KFX over the other 450's? Nobody has still answered my question. And for your information, I'm 36, been riding AND racing quads, three wheelers, and dirt bikes since I was six and have owned a CR80, two CR125s, a CR250, a WR400, 185 three wheeler, a air cooled 250r three wheeler, three 400EXs, a Z400, a Raptor, and a TRX250r. I currently own a YZ450F, two YFZ450s, a water cooled 250r three wheeler, a LT-R450, and am currently looking to purchase another quad. I'm not some kid on here blowing smoke and just talking wooter. I'm sure I have as much or more riding experience than 95 percent of the people on here. Also got to test ride a YFZ450 almost a year before it was introduced and also was at the TRX450 video shoot they did at Windchester Bay Oregon for the first commerical for the bike back in 03. My brother currently owns a 04 and 06 TRX450R, a KX450F, and a new KFX450R. So to answer your question, yes I've ridden these bikes and can give honest opinions on each and every bike (remember these are just one persons opinion but an experienced one at that). Also, yes I and just about anybody who knew anything about Yamahas knew that the YFZ was going to be a great bike when it came out in June of 03 as the bikes engine was going to be based on the Yamaha 400 that came out in the late nineties and had been updated ever few years thereafter (YZ400F, YZ426F, and finally the YFZ450F) until it reached 450cc during 02 which was a beast of an engine. If you ride dirtbikes then you would be able to get a good indication on how the quad conterpart might perform. Thats one of the reasons why I was disappointed with the KFX as I have ridden the KX450F as several occasions and that engine feels stronger that the FI unit in the KFX. And now that the DS is coming out along with the KTM (if you've ridden the 450SXF then you know what a beast that engine is) I only see the competion getting tougher for the KFX and would have thought they would have introduced a "stronger" bike after taking so long to enter the field. And that is all I'm really saying is that after planning on purchasing a KFX before I got to ride one and now finally spending some time on one, I'm a little disappointed in that its not above and beyond the other bikes but simple their equal (like you said they all have there pluses and minuses). The DS450 and KTM for that matter will be revolutionary as they will be bring something new to the playing field (more power less weight) which is what I was really hoping for with the KFX. So the question once again for the last time, why should I purchase a KFX over any of the other 450s?
What i was trying to say i bought my yfz in december of 2006 and i knew the kfx was coming out in early march and the dealership kept on telling me that the kfx wasnt going to be nothing,they were wrong the reverse was a genius idea i hate being on a slippery muddy trail and having to get off and pull a heavy atv but i cant wait to get a green kfx-450 ive rode all of the 450's a bunch and i personally like the kfx better and cant wait to see the ds-450 and ktm will be awesome does anybody have any early release photos of the ds or ktm i know that probaly wont happen though.
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Didn't mean to piss anybody off. Was just trying to get some feedback on why people chose the KFX over the other bikes. I personally couldn't see reason enough to trade up on one. But the bottom line is that all the 450's are good rides. Some have "better" features than others. Even the TRX, which takes a lot of flak in all the magazines, is a good all around quad. And with the other players getting ready to enter the 450 class, these are good times indeed for us consumers. Its been worth the wait!
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